As we speed towards the end of the final season of “Mayans M.C.,” we knew eventually the body count would rise. And in Episode 7, “To Fear of Death, I Eat the Stars,” boy, oh boy, does the body count grow. It’s clear the FX crime drama is going to wrap things up in a very, very bloody way. In this episode of Templo Talk: A Mayans M.C. Podcast, we discuss the tragic events of the latest episode of Season 5, as well as feature an interview with someone affected by the bloody events, Joseph Lucero, aka Creeper.
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If there’s one way to describe Creeper in “Mayans M.C.,” it’s loyal. This is a character who has done nothing but what is best for the club. In Season 4, when he finds out the woman he has fallen in love with is actually an undercover federal agent, Creeper doesn’t turn on the club to save his own life and emotions. No, he takes all of the blame and goes to prison. When Creeper finds out there’s a rat in the club, he goes to great lengths to find out who it is. And as seen in Episode 7, that loyalty came at a price, a deadly price. 
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But Creeper’s untimely death in prison wasn’t a shock for Lucero. The actor explained that he’s known this was going to happen since the beginning, but he just didn’t know when.
“I knew Creeper’s fate from since we started, but just when it was going to come, you didn’t know and how it was going to come, you didn’t know,” he said.
The story of Creeper really took off in Season 4, with the subplot with his new love interest and the exploration of his life prior to the M.C. when he struggled with addiction. And for Lucero, the storyline in ‘Mayans’ mirrored his own life in quite a few ways. Like Creeper, the actor spent a lot of time in prison. He also was deep in a gang during his early years. But unlike his character on TV, Lucero was able to escape that life and turn everything around, eventually landing acting gigs, including ‘Mayans.’ 
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And it’s his time in the cast of ‘Mayans’ that meant the most to him. In our discussion, he talked about the bond and brotherhood that grew amongst the cast because the series features a number of actors who come from similar backgrounds, all making massive changes in their lives and sharing it, warts and all, on screen. And as Lucero said, a lot of it comes back to Elgin James, who also spent time in prison and was involved in gangs.
“You got us all working in concert together to bring a beautiful masterpiece [to life], ran by someone who was in [federal prison] and that’s his vision,” Lucero said. “Change is possible, brother. That is beauty. But that only comes with trust. That only comes with unconditional love… Man, you don’t find that. You don’t find that! That’s the beauty of it. It was true family, and I’ve been looking for that my whole life.”
We only have three more episodes of “Mayans M.C.,” as we come to the conclusion of the series. New episodes air on FX on Wednesday, with those episodes hitting Hulu the following day. You can hear our full discussion below:

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